The travails of the licensee ‘Dover Financial Advisers Pty Ltd” during the recent public hearings at the royal commission have sparked great interest and generated a lot of media attention – not least because its sole owner and one of its three responsible managers, Terry McMaster, collapsed while giving evidence in the dock – just as he was being accused of lying about the merit of Dover’s “Client Protection Policy”.
Counsel assisting the commission Mark Costello said calling the document this was “Orwellian”, saying “It is entirely misleading to describe this as a client protection policy.” McMaster replied “It actually wasn’t intended to be misleading. It sort of evolved” and agreed it was a “misnomer” to call it that. When McMaster persisted in saying there were “other aspects of the document that were very much in favour of the client”, Costello replied “I’m going to put to you that the way you have just described the policy is simply untrue” which is royal commission speak for – “I think you’re lying”. Shortly after this exchange, Costello noticed McMaster was in difficulty and asked for the hearing to be stopped.
Spectacle aside, Dover at the royal commission is an interesting case.
Dover Financial was the only large-scale financial advice group to decline to assist the royal commission and was the sole non-institutional licensee called to appear before the royal commission. Dover also appears to have not properly answered a notice to produce documentation from the commission, by supplying a truncated spreadsheet logging when staff reviewed statements of advice, instead of the full information. The spreadsheet contained no names.
Licensee of Last Resort?
In reporting on the client contract, the Australian said Dover Financial was sometimes unkindly dubbed the financial advice licensee of last resort. This was echoed in Fairfax media, which said “people who work in the world of planning know that Dover is too often the place advisers go when they’ve been let go from one of the big banks.” The commission quizzed McMaster about Dover’s acceptance of several advisers who were forced to leave other licensees under a cloud. Evidence was given that some prior employers, including Westpac and AMP, withheld some but not all information about these planners when Dover called to conduct reference checks. McMaster declined to comment citing legal restrictions involving his upcoming evidence. Fairfax did note however, that “McMaster has previously made strong comments criticising the regulator about banning planners and naming those planners, citing Common Law respect for the right of an individual to earn a living.” This argument could be considered a principled defence of individuals rights, on the other hand, it doesn’t do much to ensure the quality of advice.
Growth in Number of Advisers
In spite of any “well-known” misgivings about Dover, it has added large numbers of advisers in recent years going from 65 in 2012 to 407 today, an astonishing growth rate by any standards, making it one of the largest “non-aligned” licensee’s in Australia.
So what makes Dover attractive to advisers seeking a licensee?
Why Dover Might Be Appealing
Adviser Ratings has spoken to dozens of advisers looking to change licensee’s for various reasons via our Adviser Connect service. We have consistently heard that what makes Dover attractive is a (relatively speaking) less directive and “micro-managed” administrative structure. There is a perception in the market that it’s fees are transparent and economical, there are fewer or no requirements to sign-up to platform or software providers and they have an open (not limited) APL.
Production and administration of SOA’s is also seen to be an advantage. Our conversations suggest that if an SOA needs to be amended, Dover’s procedures, under certain circumstances allow additions or “addendums” if there is no material change to the advice, whereas other licensee’s would require the entire SOA to be re-written. Advisers have often bemoaned the fact that a simple piece of advice can lead to a 30-50 page SOA, but a similar SOA at Dover could be 6-7 pages in length.
Finally, Dover have a proficient recruitment process that includes meeting with existing Dover advisers to get their take on the licensee’s operational features and requirements. Adviser Ratings knows there is nothing like a strong recommendation from a satisfied client! Other licensees run what may be described as “more rigorous” recruitment processes, whereas Dover’s may be called “less onerous”.
The Upshot
Without judging the veracity of Dover’s procedures, it would seem on the face of it that they have engaged a model that attempts to strip away some arduous administrative requirements that remain in place at other licensees, and that this appeals to advisers. We are continuously hearing adviser’s complaints about the administrative and regulatory burden placed upon them.
Trying to “stream-line” procedures is all well and good, but regulations are there for a reason. Whether you like them or believe they are too onerous, the law is still the law and the authorities must be satisfied that the laws are being complied with. Dover apparently not properly producing documentation for the commission may be emblematic of the criticisms it faces from the wider industry.
The repercussions around Dover’s appearance at the commission are yet to play out in full, and Terry McMaster may yet be called back to give further evidence. What should be evident so far however, is that the choice of licensee by an adviser should incorporate a wider assortment of factors than just administrative burden.
Other Considerations
Adviser Ratings spoke to Sonia Cruz, Head of Licensing at financial services specialist legal firm The Fold and asked about some of the issues that should be considered when choosing a licensee or getting your own AFSL.
Ms Cruz said that ASIC had cut 25 staff in the area last year so had less resources available to approve new licenses. This fact combined with more meticulous vetting meant that it now takes nearly 8 months for a new AFS licence to be granted.
According to Ms Cruz, ASIC were being more diligent and thorough regarding assessing licence applications. This means in some instances ASIC will ask to see audit reports from former licensees of advisers who are being nominated as responsible managers on the licence, when assessing the competency of the nominated responsible managers. As the royal commission has shown, in many instances these internal reports have been kept “in house” previously – so an adviser was able to be performance managed by their licensee. Now, if an advisers audit report is damaging, it could leave the adviser with a black mark that would disqualify them from a risk averse licensee.
Compounding the problem for advisers was the fact that in many cases, the people doing the audit may not understand the legal ramifications of an adverse finding. Sometimes a bad rating of an adviser in an audit reports has nothing to do with any legal transgressions but could be based on not meeting an unrelated internal KPI.
In a further risk to advisers, Cruz said ASIC may form the view that the licence applicant is unlikely to comply with their licence obligations and refuse to grant the licence. This will have an implication on the prospects of certain advisers being able to obtain their own AFS licence. This could have big implications for highly regarded and respectable advisers who have done nothing wrong themselves to merit any restriction.
Conclusion
With this knowledge, advisers would be well counselled to do their own due diligence of a prospective licensee. A licensee that demonstrates a thorough and diligent screening process would diminish the risk of an adviser from within that group being found to be disreputable or corrupt. When this occurs it undoubtedly affects the licensee brand and diminishes the reputation of all associated advisers. Finding a licensee with the right cultural fit for you – one that has the same values and employs “similar” advisers - should be just as important as any evaluation based on fees and administrative procedures.
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"Andrew, They were hauled before the commission for at least 3 reasons 1. they are one of the largest "independent" licensees by adviser numbers and 2. Because when the RC investigated poor behaviour and questionable advisers at other institutions, Dover kept popping up as they place they arrived at after leaving or being dismissed from previous employers. You then identify at least 3 of those advisers have been subsequently banned by the regulator. 3. You review the documents provided by Dover to the RC along with Mr McMaster's previous public comments on the industry and it's crystal clear that this guy needs to be on the stand. Because in all likelihood, a few hours with Dover will demonstrate to the RC that systemic issues with the professionalism, ethics and competency of the advice industry extend well beyond a few big bad banks. By that account, one would have to say mission accomplished."
Really? 17:15 on 03 May 18
"While Dover's philosophy and process my sound great in theory, devil is always in the execution! Terry's musings on the stand in which he dismissed previous poor adviser behaviour as simply the result of poor supervision elsewhere was breathtaking! What they did prior and what motivated them (greed and/or incompetence) was apparently irrelevant, not to worry, Dover has a system to make sure they can't do it here. It was hard to understand in what circumstance Terry believes a professional is actually responsible for their own behaviour? Subsequently banned by ASIC, oh that's just an unfortunate mistake....? It's akin to suggesting it's fine for a convicted sex offender to work at Terry's school, not to worry, we have a policy of keeping them away from the children! A great insight into the difference between the talk and the walk. As further evidence, take a look at the Dover demo SOA available online. 44 year old factory work earning $46k walks in the door with $210k to her name (including recent divorce settlement). Wants to review her super, look at insurance and get help with cash flow. Walks out the door with advice to keep her fund, make $50 a week contributions and take out insurance cover, amounting to $8,000 a year in premiums! Not done yet, for all hat strategic non conflicted advice on her basic super fund and $50 pw contribution she should pay $4,000 in upfront fees. And hell, another $2,000 pa in ongoing fees as well. All checked 3 times apparently for client best interest? Not just any SOA either, an example of Dover best practice apparently! Terry, Terry, Terry. throw in a recommendation to switch to an in house product and you've got yourself a text book case of the poor quality aligned advice we are all too familiar with. You'll have to forgive those of us on the 'outside' for not truly understanding the Dover way...."
Really? 17:01 on 03 May 18
"I left Financial Wisdom and joined Dover as they are non aligned and not pushing any particular product,platform or Model Portfolio and I was able to give advice that was purpose driven and not product driven. I am very happy with them and has no intention of looking elsewhere. Terry McMaster is a sensible decent man who is ever ready to help. Royal commission should look deeper into the institutionally run financial planning groups who are promoting their own products to enhance their profits to the detriment of the clients needs. "
Wijay Bandara 15:17 on 03 May 18
"The Royal Commission is welcome but you must understand that Dover do things differently and that this has painted a target on their back from Industry. They adopt a Flat-fee structure, the other vultures want a % of everything you do with a minimum fee, you'd be surprised at how many of the vultures then restrict products or have their own agreements to make more on the side... product, software etc Dover believe in clear and concise advice, this i a breath of fresh air... They don't try and make as much as they can out of every transaction, product, advice, license... I know they need to be held accountable but we are talking about advisers they have taken on long before there was a 'sharing' culture of audit results and performance management. They audit all pieces of advice before they go out to the clients, how is this not managing that risk anyway. In any case the people that will do evil will be everywhere and there is nothing that anyone can do, forged signatures there are no realistic checks for (right big banks...). Dover are pioneers of the industry, with 12 years of bank planning experience I will be happy to join their ranks."
Geoff 12:03 on 03 May 18
"Dodgy, dodgy, dodgy - jump ship"
I know this industry 22:21 on 02 May 18
"Kane and Kevin - couldn’t agree more."
Jeff D 22:16 on 02 May 18
"If you have such contempt in the Royal Commission that you won’t answer their requests for information, I don’t feel sorry for you. Dover doesn’t just do a disservice for their own advisers, but all non aligned advisers."
Alicia James 21:44 on 02 May 18
"Short concise SOA's as required by ASIC is all that should be required by a client. They just dont read 50 page reports which normally are just full of Dealer Group disclaimers anyway."
Chris 19:19 on 02 May 18
"To the good Dover advisers, of which I know there are quite a few you are unfortunately judged by the company you keep."
Ex Dover Adviser 17:57 on 02 May 18
"Hi Andrew, In relation to its structure, I view having a shallow corporate structure as an advantage. I felt in my old days with my previous bank licensee there was an "Executive Aura" surrounding the boards and the CEO. Whereas now I am often able to talk to Terry McMaster directly when there are issues of concern. He is a practicing adviser himself so I am confident he is well grounded of all the issues we adviser face daily. Dover is not perfect and I know that int the wake of RC they are now working to better themselves again. As I said please visit Dover's statement on the RC. The link is here: https://www.dover.com.au/april-26-2018/. Andrew, do you know of any licensee that checks EVERY SOA x3 times? This is why I thought with Dover you would have less risk compared to going to other licensee. I also personally found it curious that the examples of advisers' misconduct provided by the Big 4 + AMP to the RC are all examples of advisers that at the end decided to move to Dover. There are 25,000 advisers out there and I would imagine there are many advisers who are moving licensees to others BUT Dover. I hope it is just pure coincidence. Dover is a fast-growing licensee as shown in above article (a lot of advisers moving out from banks to find an unaligned alternative), so maybe Dover was dragged into the RC because the RC wants to send a message to bad advisers "There is no where to hide"? Just my own analysis on the whole situation.. "
Kane 17:21 on 02 May 18
"As a former Dover advisor (I recently sold my business), my time at Dover was like a breath of fresh air. Yet more compliant than any of the vertically aligned dealer groups I had been associated with over the preceding thirty years. Dover's name was besmirched by a number of Dealer Group executives I spoke with prior to making the move to the group. Those executives are no longer. I suspect the criticism of Dover stems partially from a fear of the unknown but largely from a concerted effort by traditional (and conflicted) dealer groups trying to protect their patch. If ASIC actually got to understand Dover, I suspect its model would be the panacea for the industry's woes. Dover's compliance vetting process doesn't let "bad" advice get to clients, short of adviser fraud which no dealer group can protect itself from. I suspect the few alleged flaws in Dovers recruitment process will continue to get airplay to hide the crimes committed by advisers in other larger institutionally owned dealer groups. Keep fighting the fight Terry "
Kevin Witham 17:04 on 02 May 18
"It's not surprising some Dover advisers come to it's defence. So what is Dover doing wrong? We know the bank planners have problems but why were Dover the only unaligned licensee pulled before the commission. They are held in contempt by many in the industry, again why? Is it just a case of sour grapes because aligned advisers feel like they have to jump through hoops (that don't seem to work anyway) so they think Dover advisers should also have to? It says something that it's solely owed by McMaster and he's one of just 3 responsible managers. Having that sort of structure might cut down on admin but could also leave their advisers exposed should those 3 wizards get a call wrong."
Andrew 16:54 on 02 May 18
"As an adviser with aa bank for 10 years and recently with Dover for the last 3 years, I can tell you the compliance regime with Dover is stricter for the adviser and more beneficial for the client. With my old licensee if i wanted to recommend an industry fund because it was cheaper and more appropriate for a client, it was almost impossible. With Dover it is encouraged. Every piece of advice given to a client is checked with Dover before the client sees it, with my old licence it is not. My old licencee would check 3-5 clients per year, up to a year after the advice was given. This has a huge potential to stop bad advice going to clients. It is my belief if all advisers where under a similar system to Dover's the industry would have half the issues we see today"
Chris 16:39 on 02 May 18
"I am an adviser with Dover for the last 3 years before moving from a Bank-owned licensee, and am heartened by the facts that: 1. Dover do not have any products to sell. 2. Dover do not get any share of our income - we pay them an agreed 'fee for service' annual license fee. 3. Dover reviewed ALL my SOAs three times to make sure they are in client's best interest. For criticisms discussed in Royal Commission, Dover has released a statement. The link is here: https://www.dover.com.au/april-26-2018/ I have thought about my licensing alternatives since Dover's name been 'tainted' by the RC. My options are: 1. Work for the banks - or licensed through Bank's owned licensees. This is a step backward. 2. Find another unaligned licensee. I have done the research prior to me leaving my previous licensee, and without knowing every single one of advisers in Dover. And by reading their publications and speaking to their staff, found myself sharing the 'client best interest' philosophy that Dover has at heart. 3. License direct to ASIC. As a single planner the licensing cost would amount to the same if you include PI insurance, plus all the time you have to spent dealing with the regulators on compliance issues. This is not an option for me. So unfortunately sticking with Dover is the most rational and sensible thing to do. "
Kane 16:39 on 02 May 18